[NLP2RDF] [Corpora-List] Announcement: NLP Interchange Format (NIF) 1.0 Spec, Demo and Reference Implementation

Obrst, Leo J. lobrst at mitre.org
Fri Dec 2 15:55:47 CET 2011


Actually R.V. Guha of Google (talking about schema.org at the Ontolog Forum yesterday: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_12_01)  and Dan Brickley said that originally in the late 1990s RDF had an s-expression -like syntax: "RDF '97 was PICS-NG, which used s-expressions: http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-pics-ng-metadata", but that "then XML happened." 

Thanks,
Leo

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Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] [NLP2RDF] Announcement: NLP Interchange Format (NIF) 1.0 Spec, Demo and Reference Implementation


Hello,

Am 30.11.2011 23:39, schrieb sowa at bestweb.net:
> RDF is the world's most outlandishly bloated way of expressing triples.
> IBM did not adopt it for Watson, Google never adopted it, Facebook never
> adopted it, Amazon never adopted it. Apple never adopted RDF, and they
> trounced Nokia, who poured millions of euros into research on the
> Semantic Web.
>
> Even the W3C has backed off from using RDF by promoting RDFa, whose only
> resemblance to RDF is in the three lettters R D F.  Programmers are
> rapidly migrating away from RDF to notations such as JSON, which is
> basically LISP with curly braces.
>
> At this late date, why would anybody working on NLP adopt a  notation
> that all the major web companies abandoned or rejected?

Are you talking about RDF/XML syntax specifically? Otherwise, you are 
comparing apples and oranges, since RDF can be serialised in different 
formats like Turtle.

IBM Watson does use some background knowledge from the Web of Data 
(DBpedia). Google Shopping uses it (http://purl.org/goodrelations/). 
Facebook has OpenGraph (http://ogp.me/). I don't want to argue this 
point here as everyone has different opinions on the popularity of RDF 
and there are certain weaknesses, but just point out that there are less 
bloated ways than RDF/XML to express RDF triples.

Kind regards,

Jens

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