[NLP2RDF] Extending NIF Ontologies

[Carina Haupt]

Hi Sebastian

Am 18.01.2012 09:53, schrieb Sebastian Hellmann:
> Hi Carina,
> there were several reasons why I choose scms:means, but none of them
> really matters in the end. So I would not mind replacing it with
> something else.
>
> The basic idea is that the property connects String with some form of
> data entity such as DBpedia. Assuming that a DBpedia URI has a well
> defined meaning, given by the Wikipedia article "means" seemed to fit.

I agree that it fits somehow, but I still think it is too general

> The other reason was that it was already used by http://fox.aksw.org
>
> The main reason, why I created such a property in the first place, is
> that all Entity Linking tools, would produce the same output regarding
> to the property.
>
> So what do you think? What alternatives would you propose?

I would propose to generate a property like pao:incarnationOf (actually 
I am not 100% happy with this expression), which needs a pao:Hit as 
domain and skos:Concept as range, and also is a subproperty of 
dc-terms:subject and perhaps also of scms:means. But to be able include 
scms:means, we would first need to have it's definition, so that we can 
check if everything is consistent.

> In general I would prefer to send all mails over the mailing list, if
> there is no sensitive data involved. There are over 50 people subscribed
> already and feedback would really help when talking about ontologies
> (shared conceptualisation)

Sorry, I did not exclude the mailing list on purpose.

> I hope to find time to look at the your data scheme soon.
> All the best,
> Sebastian
>
>
>
>
> On 01/18/2012 09:26 AM, Carina Haupt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I looked into scms:means a little further and I am wondering why you
>> are using it. It is not dereferenced and also you seem not to be able
>> to provide any information about it, or at least you don't do it
>> online. Can you give me any reason why you used it instead of creating
>> an own property? Because 'means' seams a little bit general for the
>> specific use case we have.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Carina
>>
>> Am 13.01.2012 07:44, schrieb Sebastian Hellmann:
>>> Hm, as far as i understood it the pao:incarnationOf property is quite
>>> similar to the scms:means property, which is used to connect Strings
>>> with DBpedia Entities. So your basic use case is that you have a text
>>> with "Mentions" or "Hits" which are mapped to "Concepts" . Using your
>>> own property for this is fine. You could also use dcterms:subject
>>> directly. An example would really help here. Can we have a look at the
>>> prominer ontology? We could include the ontology into NIF and also
>>> generate Java Classes (OWL2Java) and Documentation (OWLDoc) for it.
>>
>
>

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