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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi John, <br class="">
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      On 07.05.2015 13:32, John P. McCrae wrote:<br class="">
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        <div class="">Hi Sebastian,<br class="">
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        An update to NIF sounds like a great idea! I agree that you
        should aim to standardize this in the context of the W3C, </div>
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    NiF 3.0 will mainly fix the obvious things, which are annoying and
    make the format simpler. We should be done with it within a week.
    Then we can move to W3C with a fresh start.<br class="">
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      <div dir="ltr" class="">I am not sure of what the best plan for this is,
        the options seem to be either:<br class="">
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          <li class="">Form a new CG</li>
          <li class="">Take this up as a new task for the LD4LT group.<br class="">
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          <li class="">Ask the Web Annotation WG if they would be interested in
            taking up NIF as part of their spec.</li>
        </ol><p class="">Personally, I would recommend the second option, we (LIDER +
          FREME) already have a lot of community groups and
          standardizing NIF would be a great way to leverage the LD4LT
          group.<br class="">
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    Ah yes, joining LD4LT is obvious, but did not occur to me before. So
    I am really in favor of this. Are there any concerns about joining
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    Joining Web Annotation WG would be nice, but we are kind of out of
    scope there as far as I know.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I agree, it would probably be hard to standardize NIF in the Web Annotation group, I agree. On the other hand one should at some point probably have a mapping from NIF to web annotation or the other way round. Doing that in LD4LT again sounds the easier way.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Best,</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Felix</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="">
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    Good feedback, thanks,<br class="">
    Sebastian<br class="">
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      <div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="">Regards,</p><p class="">John</p>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:13 PM,
          Sebastian Hellmann <span dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de" target="_blank" class="">hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de</a>&gt;</span>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""> Dear all,<br class="">
              as we are advancing with the FREME project (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://freme-project.eu/" target="_blank" class="">http://freme-project.eu/</a>) we feel
              that it is the right time to tackle some issues of NIF 2.0
              which make NIF simpler and easier to use.<br class="">
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              So the roadmap is to change the ontology first and then
              update implementations and corpora.<br class="">
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              Milan, Markus, Martin and me put together a document
              showing the changes:<br class="">
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              <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/11nuH_xIv-nBsZz50CCj3BxoA84Vu3O7nfTgs1cGotf8/edit#" target="_blank" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/11nuH_xIv-nBsZz50CCj3BxoA84Vu3O7nfTgs1cGotf8/edit#</a><br class="">
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              We consider most of them a clear imrovement, reducing the
              size of NIF a lot and fixing ambuigities.<br class="">
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              The most pressing discussion points are:<br class="">
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              1. rename nif:referenceContext to nif:context for
              simplicity<br class="">
              2. move to a W3C community group or even working group<br class="">
              3. move the ontology to a w3c namespace, e.g. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://w3.org/nif-core#" target="_blank" class="">http://w3.org/nif-core#</a> <br class="">
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              All feedback is welcome,<br class="">
              Sebastian<br class="">
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                <small class="">Sebastian Hellmann<br class="">
                  AKSW/NLP2RDF research group<br class="">
                  Insitute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) and DBpedia
                  Association<br class="">
                  Events: <br class="">
                  * <b class="">Feb 9th, 2015</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wiki.dbpedia.org/meetings/Dublin2015" target="_blank" class="">3rd DBpedia Community Meeting in
                    Dublin</a><br class="">
                  * <b class="">May 29th, 2015</b> Submission deadline SEMANTiCS
                  2015 <br class="">
                  * <b class="">Sept 15th-17th, 2015</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://semantics.cc/" target="_blank" class="">SEMANTiCS 2015 (formerly
                    i-SEMANTICS), Vienna </a><br class="">
                  Venha para a Alemanha como PhD: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf" target="_blank" class="">http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf</a><br class="">
                  Projects: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://dbpedia.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://dbpedia.org</a>,
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nlp2rdf.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://nlp2rdf.org</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://linguistics.okfn.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://linguistics.okfn.org</a>,
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt" target="_blank" class="">https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt</a><br class="">
                  Homepage: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann" target="_blank" class="">http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann</a><br class="">
                  Research Group: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://aksw.org/" target="_blank" class="">http://aksw.org</a><br class="">
                  Thesis:<br class="">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis-summary" target="_blank" class="">http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis-summary</a><br class="">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis" target="_blank" class="">http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis</a><br class="">
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      <small class="">Sebastian Hellmann<br class="">
        AKSW/NLP2RDF research group<br class="">
        Insitute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) and DBpedia Association<br class="">
        Events: <br class="">
        * <b class="">Feb 9th, 2015</b> <a href="http://wiki.dbpedia.org/meetings/Dublin2015" class="">3rd DBpedia
          Community Meeting in Dublin</a><br class="">
        * <b class="">May 29th, 2015</b> Submission deadline SEMANTiCS 2015 <br class="">
        * <b class="">Sept 15th-17th, 2015</b> <a href="http://semantics.cc/" class="">SEMANTiCS
          2015 (formerly i-SEMANTICS), Vienna </a><br class="">
        Venha para a Alemanha como PhD: <a href="http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf" class="">http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf</a><br class="">
        Projects: <a href="http://dbpedia.org/" class="">http://dbpedia.org</a>,
        <a href="http://nlp2rdf.org/" class="">http://nlp2rdf.org</a>, <a href="http://linguistics.okfn.org/" class="">http://linguistics.okfn.org</a>,
        <a href="http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt" class="">https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt</a><br class="">
        Homepage: <a href="http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann" class="">http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann</a><br class="">
        Research Group: <a href="http://aksw.org/" class="">http://aksw.org</a><br class="">
        Thesis:<br class="">
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