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<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi Sebastian,</div><div><br></div><div>that you for that slide. I'm very much aware of your work back then ;) In fact, explicit support for String URIs in WebAnnotation is one aspect that I would like to push in the context of this initiative. I see no inherent issue with the approach (except that it is more well-suited for some applications than for others), and I advocate it myself (for on-the-fly annotation, at least), but it could be *a lot* more visible beyond the NIF community and better documented in WA.</div><div><br></div><div>But this is not the only topic for discussion. Another one is how to formalize linguistic annotations in general. NIF has limited linguistic data structures, WA has none -- I see no way to do morphological segmentation with either (without inventing new vocabulary), for example. Neither WA nor NIF 2.0 can adequately distinguish non-branching phrase structure nodes for example. You may remember my questions about empty nodes a few years back (which were partially addressed with the Annotation element). And so on ...</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Christian</div><div><br></div><div>Am .02.2020, 17:46 Uhr, schrieb Sebastian Hellmann <hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>:<br></div><br><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex">
<p>Hi Christian, <br>
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<p>just a question: What about the original harmonization that is
here on page 8:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://svn.aksw.org/papers/2013/ISWC_NIF/public.pdf">http://svn.aksw.org/papers/2013/ISWC_NIF/public.pdf</a></p>
<p>See attachment. <br>
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<p>Back then I traveled to Chicago to coordinate NIF with OA on
this, same with this standard: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/its20/">https://www.w3.org/TR/its20/</a> which
has a round-trip NIF conversion. <br>
</p>
<p>Are there any newly discovered flaws in this? <br>
</p>
<p>-- Sebastian<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25.02.20 17:19, Christian Chiarcos
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Dear all,<br>
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<div>following up this discussion, we settled for a call on
Feb, 26 2020, 14:00-15:00 CET to discuss (and most likely,
to decide) where to continue this discussion (i.e., what
mailing list, SIG or community group).</div>
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<div>Details (incl. Zoom link) in the agenda document [<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OGeE96V79iAMavOR6jM-zIA9kKfrC2Pnp5WDu2ZPV-0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OGeE96V79iAMavOR6jM-zIA9kKfrC2Pnp5WDu2ZPV-0/edit?usp=sharing</a>].</div>
<div>Results of the discussion will be published there, too.
If you want to express a preference for or against a
particular option, please feel free to contact me directly
or to add this as a comment into the agenda document.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Christian</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Fr., 31. Jan. 2020 um
21:57 Uhr schrieb Christian Chiarcos <<a href="mailto:christian.chiarcos@web.de" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">christian.chiarcos@web.de</a>>:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear all,
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<div>in the past few weeks, I addressed several
communities with the suggestion to discuss the
prospective harmonization of vocabularies for
linguistic annotations on the web, most notably Web
Annotation (Open Annotation) and NIF. (Apologies for
cross-posting.) This met considerable interest, so
that I would like to suggest a telco for figuring out
*where to discuss this best*. </div>
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<div>Obviously the problem won't be solved by a single
telco, but we can discuss how to establish effective
communication. The obvious options are a number of
existing mailing lists, SIGs or W3C community groups.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Agenda document:</div>
<div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OGeE96V79iAMavOR6jM-zIA9kKfrC2Pnp5WDu2ZPV-0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OGeE96V79iAMavOR6jM-zIA9kKfrC2Pnp5WDu2ZPV-0/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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<div>Feel free to add your preferences.</div>
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<div>Doodle poll:</div>
<div><a href="https://doodle.com/poll/6dh3r7v9h3mgzhgw" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://doodle.com/poll/6dh3r7v9h3mgzhgw</a><br>
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<div>The options are limited to the week after Feb 24th.
If you cannot participate but would like to
express your preferences, please let me know and put a
comment into the agenda document.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Note that I won't spam the mailing lists with
updates on the results of the poll, etc. So, please
subscribe to updates from the Doodle poll to get the
notification about the time slot and check the agenda
document before Feb 24 for information about the
teleconference software (not trivial as we expect more
than 10 participants). </div>
<div><br>
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<div>I will put conclusions of the discussion in the
agenda document, so if you're not able to participate
in the call, you can afterwards learn about the
results.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Christian</div>
<div>
<div>-- </div>
<div>Prof. Dr. Christian Chiarcos<br>
Applied Computational Linguistics<br>
Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universität Frankfurt a. M.<br>
60054 Frankfurt am Main, Germany<br>
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office: Robert-Mayer-Str. 11-15, #107<br>
mail: <a href="mailto:chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de</a><br>
web: <a href="http://acoli.cs.uni-frankfurt.de" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://acoli.cs.uni-frankfurt.de</a><br>
tel: +49-(0)69-798-22463<br>
fax: +49-(0)69-798-28334</div>
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<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
All the best,<br>
Sebastian Hellmann<br>
<br>
<small> Director of Knowledge Integration and Linked Data
Technologies (KILT) Competence Center<br>
at the Institute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig
University<br>
Executive Director of the DBpedia Association<br>
Projects: <a href="http://dbpedia.org">http://dbpedia.org</a>,
<a href="http://nlp2rdf.org">http://nlp2rdf.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linguistics.okfn.org">http://linguistics.okfn.org</a>,
<a href="http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt">https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt</a><br>
Homepage: <a href="http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann">http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann</a><br>
Research Group: <a href="http://aksw.org">http://aksw.org</a><br>
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