From lehmann at informatik.uni-leipzig.de Wed Apr 8 10:51:23 2015 From: lehmann at informatik.uni-leipzig.de (Jens Lehmann) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 10:51:23 +0200 Subject: [Qrowd] hardware infrastructure Message-ID: <5524EC0B.3080108@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Hello, I just made further checks on the proposal and one area which is not fully convincing yet is the hardware infrastructure. Since we want to run things at scale, it is clear that we need appropriate servers to do so. There are mainly two ways to achieve that: a) by declaring hardware costs or cloud usage costs in the budget or b) by declaring that existing infrastructure is contributed in the partner descriptions. At the moment, this is only partially done by some partners, so each partner should check whether he has the hardware (and also has this written down explicitly via a) or b)) to run the proposed experiments and edit the partner profiles (now in Word) accordingly or let us know of budget changes. Note that we can only swap hardware for PMs at this stage as we are very close to 4 mio Euro (3.99). That issue is particularly important for the platform work package: It would be easiest if we can say that ENG (or Ontos?) is contributing large-scale infrastructure facilities (possibly with restrictions e.g. only for the runtime of the project, up to x million computing hours etc.) to the consortium. Otherwise, we would probably have to swap personal costs to hardware infrastructure / cloud costs for large-scale platform deployment and experiments. What are your thoughts on this? (I'm bringing this up as it makes the planning more convincing and it is something which reviewers can easily use to downgrade/filter proposals.) Kind regards, Jens -- Dr. Jens Lehmann AKSW Group, Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig Homepage: http://www.jens-lehmann.org GPG Key: http://jens-lehmann.org/jens_lehmann.asc From daniel.hladky at ontos.com Wed Apr 8 11:13:48 2015 From: daniel.hladky at ontos.com (Daniel Hladky) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:13:48 +0200 Subject: [Qrowd] hardware infrastructure In-Reply-To: <5524EC0B.3080108@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> References: <5524EC0B.3080108@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Message-ID: Jens, We do not have large HW infrastructure. Whenever we need something we are also renting servers (mainly in Germany through Ontos GmbH). This means I could only add more costs for renting servers. Cheers, Daniel On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Jens Lehmann < lehmann at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote: > > Hello, > > I just made further checks on the proposal and one area which is not fully > convincing yet is the hardware infrastructure. Since we want to run things > at scale, it is clear that we need appropriate servers to do so. There are > mainly two ways to achieve that: a) by declaring hardware costs or cloud > usage costs in the budget or b) by declaring that existing infrastructure > is contributed in the partner descriptions. At the moment, this is only > partially done by some partners, so each partner should check whether he > has the hardware (and also has this written down explicitly via a) or b)) > to run the proposed experiments and edit the partner profiles (now in Word) > accordingly or let us know of budget changes. Note that we can only swap > hardware for PMs at this stage as we are very close to 4 mio Euro (3.99). > > That issue is particularly important for the platform work package: It > would be easiest if we can say that ENG (or Ontos?) is contributing > large-scale infrastructure facilities (possibly with restrictions e.g. only > for the runtime of the project, up to x million computing hours etc.) to > the consortium. Otherwise, we would probably have to swap personal costs to > hardware infrastructure / cloud costs for large-scale platform deployment > and experiments. What are your thoughts on this? > > (I'm bringing this up as it makes the planning more convincing and it is > something which reviewers can easily use to downgrade/filter proposals.) > > Kind regards, > > Jens > > -- > Dr. Jens Lehmann > AKSW Group, Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig > Homepage: http://www.jens-lehmann.org > GPG Key: http://jens-lehmann.org/jens_lehmann.asc > _______________________________________________ > Qrowd mailing list > Qrowd at lists.informatik.uni-leipzig.de > http://lists.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/mailman/listinfo/qrowd > -- *_________________________________________________________________________________* *Daniel Hladky, *CEO & VR *Ontos AG **Ontos GmbH* Mittelstrasse 24, 2560 Nidau, Switzerland Ostwaldstr. 4, 04329 Leipzig, Germany *E* daniel.hladky at ontos.com *W *www.ontos.com *Amtsgericht Leipzig, HRB 25146* *M* +41 79 3535043 *T *+41 32 3329250 *T *+49 32 3329250 Verwaltungsrat: Daniel Hladky Geschäftsführer: Daniel Hladky *_________________________________________________________________________________* This e-mail (including any attachments) contains confidential information and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. 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