[Qrowd] Qrowd: final Budget will be shifted to EC portal this afternoon

Di Apr 15 17:01:29 CEST 2014

Hi Martin,

> Am 15.04.2014 um 12:11 schrieb Martin Kaltenböck <m.kaltenboeck at semantic-web.at>:
> 
> Dear Andreas, all
> 
> 
> I have double checked the final budget figures now but I fear that the budget is not well balanced between the partners anymore now,
> see: https://docs.google.com/a/semantic-web.at/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aui91j-qa52bdFFnYWRDWFBUM2VlS0RqdkQ5cWE4aWc&usp=sharing#gid=0
> 
> Andreas you have raised the Unister budget ~ 100k and now the following issues are arising:
> 
> .) Bus Case (BC) Partners: Unister is about 130k higher then the other BC partner REEEP
> (60 months in opposite to 40 month) - out of my opinion this is not well balanced and understandable by a reviewer

At one of the first calls we have discussed if Unister agrees to be a business case partner. I pointed out there, that we are no standard business case partner as we are strongly interested into the technology. Finally we agreed to take over the part, to strengthen the proposal with our business case, but have to be participated at the technology development as well. Then the technical part was eliminated from our work package, as it was decided that just business parts should be addressed there.
Therefore, I added Unister to the tasks addressing the topics that were earlier part of the WP5, i.e., WP2 and WP1.
Finally, I take my orientation from the number of PM of Brox. As we have and like to work on the business case, we need some extra PMs for the technological part.

> 
> .) the overall project budget = 3.67mio and the funding = 2.63 Mio - what is now over the ~ 2.5mio funding we 
> wanted to go for...not sure if this is a problem?!

Do we have a limit there?

> 
> .) you see in the spreadsheet (at the bottom of main sheet) that we have some partners going slightly over the 1st 
> draft budget we agreed on and others that are slightly going beneath it (all between 20-30k) - only Unister is ~75k above this now...

Is this an actual problem?

> .) from my perspective of the WP work & responsibilities I think its unclear why Unister is involved with that many PMs in WP1 and 
> WP2 (here you have more PMs now then the ICT partners have?!) as beeing a busines case partner in the project

Please see my notes above. However, I just thought about what we will do in the WPs and do not thought about the other partners. But I can cut back to the limit of the other partners there, if this is expected. 

> So Andreas, can we reduce the Unister PMs again please - do you think this is feasible? 

I think we should make clear that Unister provides competence in the ICT and business part. Then it will be clear that the project will take advantage of both parts and the number of PMs will not be misunderstood.

> I think we should try to go down for at least 50k on your side again...
> 
> We have already shifted the figures into the participants portal - BUT: we will need to have a final discussion & decision
> in the call at 11.00am CET tomorrow to have a solution here in place afterwards - so please all of you participate in this call!

I will be attending.

> Many thanks for taking this into account - please get in touch directly with me if any questions are arising - best regards - martin

Regards,
Andreas 

> 
> 
> 2014-04-15 9:23 GMT+02:00 Martin Kaltenböck <m.kaltenboeck at semantic-web.at>:
>> Hi Andreas
>> 
>> many thanks for this - did you change anything major? 
>> Many thanks for a short info & best regards - martin
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-04-15 3:37 GMT+02:00 Andreas Both <andreas.both at unister.de>:
>>> Hi Martin,
>>> 
>>> all done. Thanks for your patience.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 14.04.2014 15:32, Martin Kaltenböck wrote:
>>>> Hi Andreas
>>>> 
>>>> ok will do - but can we agree on 11.00am CET as a deadline then please 
>>>> as this is mixing up my time plane totally otherwise - many thanks in advance 
>>>> & regards from Vienna - martin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2014-04-14 15:29 GMT+02:00 Andreas Both <andreas.both at unister.de>:
>>>>> Dear Martin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> please wait until tomorrow morning. I will have checked all of Unisters parts in the evening.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14.04.2014 15:01, Martin Kaltenböck wrote:
>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> in the call last Friday there was a remark by Brox & Unister to make a final check of the budget over the weekend
>>>>>> (Budget see: https://docs.google.com/a/semantic-web.at/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aui91j-qa52bdFFnYWRDWFBUM2VlS0RqdkQ5cWE4aWc&usp=sharing#gid=0)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope this could be managed already as we are going to start to shift data from spreadsheet to the EC forms this afternoon...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please shout out loud immediately if there are still changes needed!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Furthermore in the Unister Tab there are some missing orga infos like department et al - please check and take care asap today!!
>>>>>> (See: https://docs.google.com/a/semantic-web.at/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aui91j-qa52bdFFnYWRDWFBUM2VlS0RqdkQ5cWE4aWc&usp=sharing#gid=5)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks for your support & best regards from Vienna - Martin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>> -- 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dr. Andreas Both
>>>>> Head of Research and Development
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unister GmbH
>>>>> Barfußgaesschen 11 | 04109 Leipzig | Germany
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phone: +49 (0)341 65050 24496
>>>>> eMail: andreas.both at unister-gmbh.de
>>>>> web: http://www.unister.de
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vertretungsberechtigter Geschäftsführer: Andreas Prokop
>>>>> Amtsgericht Leipzig, HRB: 19056
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Kaltenböck, CMC
>>>> Managing Partner, CFO
>>>> 
>>>> Semantic Web Company (SWC)
>>>> Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8
>>>> A - 1070 Vienna, Austria
>>>> Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25
>>>> Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22
>>>> Mobile +43 650 3905697
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.semantic-web.at
>>>> http://blog.semantic-web.at
>>>> http://poolparty.biz
>>>> 
>>>> LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/
>>>> OKFN-AT - http://okfn.at
>>>> EDF2014 - http://2014.data-forum.eu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Dr. Andreas Both
>>> Head of Research and Development
>>> 
>>> Unister GmbH
>>> Barfußgaesschen 11 | 04109 Leipzig | Germany
>>> 
>>> Phone: +49 (0)341 65050 24496
>>> eMail: andreas.both at unister-gmbh.de
>>> web: http://www.unister.de
>>> 
>>> Vertretungsberechtigter Geschäftsführer: Andreas Prokop
>>> Amtsgericht Leipzig, HRB: 19056
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> --
>> Martin Kaltenböck, CMC
>> Managing Partner, CFO
>> 
>> Semantic Web Company (SWC)
>> Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8
>> A - 1070 Vienna, Austria
>> Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25
>> Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22
>> Mobile +43 650 3905697
>> 
>> http://www.semantic-web.at
>> http://blog.semantic-web.at
>> http://poolparty.biz
>> 
>> LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/
>> OKFN-AT - http://okfn.at
>> EDF2014 - http://2014.data-forum.eu
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> Martin Kaltenböck, CMC
> Managing Partner, CFO
> 
> Semantic Web Company (SWC)
> Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8
> A - 1070 Vienna, Austria
> Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25
> Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22
> Mobile +43 650 3905697
> 
> http://www.semantic-web.at
> http://blog.semantic-web.at
> http://poolparty.biz
> 
> LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/
> OKFN-AT - http://okfn.at
> EDF2014 - http://2014.data-forum.eu
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