[Qrowd] Qrowd: final Budget will be shifted to EC portal this afternoon

Di Apr 15 18:23:23 CEST 2014

Hi Andreas

thanks for your feedback - so maybe we just have a different view on the
issues &
budget figures - lets discuss the final figures tomorrow in our call and
then
we can find a good solution together for sure & also can easily update the
Unister
figures in the participants portal then - best regards -martin


2014-04-15 17:01 GMT+02:00 Andreas Both <andreas.both at unister.de>:

> Hi Martin,
>
> Am 15.04.2014 um 12:11 schrieb Martin Kaltenböck <
> m.kaltenboeck at semantic-web.at>:
>
> Dear Andreas, all
>
>
> I have double checked the final budget figures now but I fear that the
> budget is not well balanced between the partners anymore now,
> see:
> https://docs.google.com/a/semantic-web.at/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aui91j-qa52bdFFnYWRDWFBUM2VlS0RqdkQ5cWE4aWc&usp=sharing#gid=0
>
> Andreas you have raised the Unister budget ~ 100k and now the following
> issues are arising:
>
> .) Bus Case (BC) Partners: Unister is about 130k higher then the other BC
> partner REEEP
> (60 months in opposite to 40 month) - out of my opinion this is not well
> balanced and understandable by a reviewer
>
>
> At one of the first calls we have discussed if Unister agrees to be a
> business case partner. I pointed out there, that we are no standard
> business case partner as we are strongly interested into the technology.
> Finally we agreed to take over the part, to strengthen the proposal with
> our business case, but have to be participated at the technology
> development as well. Then the technical part was eliminated from our work
> package, as it was decided that just business parts should be addressed
> there.
> Therefore, I added Unister to the tasks addressing the topics that were
> earlier part of the WP5, i.e., WP2 and WP1.
> Finally, I take my orientation from the number of PM of Brox. As we have
> and like to work on the business case, we need some extra PMs for the
> technological part.
>
>
>
> .) the overall project budget = 3.67mio and the funding = 2.63 Mio - what
> is now over the ~ 2.5mio funding we
> wanted to go for...not sure if this is a problem?!
>
>
> Do we have a limit there?
>
>
> .) you see in the spreadsheet (at the bottom of main sheet) that we have
> some partners going slightly over the 1st
> draft budget we agreed on and others that are slightly going beneath it
> (all between 20-30k) - only Unister is ~75k above this now...
>
>
> Is this an actual problem?
>
> .) from my perspective of the WP work & responsibilities I think its
> unclear why Unister is involved with that many PMs in WP1 and
> WP2 (here you have more PMs now then the ICT partners have?!) as beeing a
> busines case partner in the project
>
>
> Please see my notes above. However, I just thought about what we will do
> in the WPs and do not thought about the other partners. But I can cut back
> to the limit of the other partners there, if this is expected.
>
>
> So Andreas, can we reduce the Unister PMs again please - do you think this
> is feasible?
>
>
> I think we should make clear that Unister provides competence in the ICT
> and business part. Then it will be clear that the project will take
> advantage of both parts and the number of PMs will not be misunderstood.
>
> I think we should try to go down for at least 50k on your side again...
>
> We have already shifted the figures into the participants portal - BUT: we
> will need to have a final discussion & decision
> in the call at 11.00am CET tomorrow to have a solution here in place
> afterwards - so please all of you participate in this call!
>
>
> I will be attending.
>
> Many thanks for taking this into account - please get in touch directly
> with me if any questions are arising - best regards - martin
>
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
>
>
>
> 2014-04-15 9:23 GMT+02:00 Martin Kaltenböck <m.kaltenboeck at semantic-web.at
> >:
>
>> Hi Andreas
>>
>> many thanks for this - did you change anything major?
>> Many thanks for a short info & best regards - martin
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-15 3:37 GMT+02:00 Andreas Both <andreas.both at unister.de>:
>>
>>>  Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> all done. Thanks for your patience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14.04.2014 15:32, Martin Kaltenböck wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Andreas
>>>
>>>  ok will do - but can we agree on 11.00am CET as a deadline then please
>>> as this is mixing up my time plane totally otherwise - many thanks in
>>> advance
>>> & regards from Vienna - martin
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-14 15:29 GMT+02:00 Andreas Both <andreas.both at unister.de>:
>>>
>>>>  Dear Martin,
>>>>
>>>> please wait until tomorrow morning. I will have checked all of Unisters
>>>> parts in the evening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14.04.2014 15:01, Martin Kaltenböck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Dear all
>>>>
>>>>  in the call last Friday there was a remark by Brox & Unister to make
>>>> a final check of the budget over the weekend
>>>> (Budget see:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/semantic-web.at/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aui91j-qa52bdFFnYWRDWFBUM2VlS0RqdkQ5cWE4aWc&usp=sharing#gid=0
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>>  I hope this could be managed already as we are going to start to
>>>> shift data from spreadsheet to the EC forms this afternoon...
>>>>
>>>>  Please shout out loud immediately if there are still changes needed!!!
>>>>
>>>>  Furthermore in the Unister Tab there are some missing orga infos like
>>>> department et al - please check and take care asap today!!
>>>>  (See:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/semantic-web.at/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aui91j-qa52bdFFnYWRDWFBUM2VlS0RqdkQ5cWE4aWc&usp=sharing#gid=5
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>>  Many thanks for your support & best regards from Vienna - Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
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>>>> Managing Partner, CFO
>>>>
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>>>> Dr. Andreas Both
>>>> Head of Research and Development
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>> --
>>> Martin Kaltenböck, CMC
>>> Managing Partner, CFO
>>>
>>> Semantic Web Company (SWC)
>>> Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8
>>> A - 1070 Vienna, Austria
>>> Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25
>>> Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22
>>> Mobile +43 650 3905697
>>>
>>> http://www.semantic-web.at
>>> http://blog.semantic-web.at
>>> http://poolparty.biz
>>>
>>> LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/
>>> OKFN-AT - http://okfn.at
>>> EDF2014 - http://2014.data-forum.eu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Dr. Andreas Both
>>> Head of Research and Development
>>>
>>> Unister GmbH
>>> Barfußgaesschen 11 | 04109 Leipzig | Germany
>>>
>>> Phone: +49 (0)341 65050 24496
>>> eMail: andreas.both at unister-gmbh.de
>>> web: http://www.unister.de
>>>
>>> Vertretungsberechtigter Geschäftsführer: Andreas Prokop
>>> Amtsgericht Leipzig, HRB: 19056
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Martin Kaltenböck, CMC
>> Managing Partner, CFO
>>
>> Semantic Web Company (SWC)
>> Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8
>> A - 1070 Vienna, Austria
>> Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25
>> Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22
>> Mobile +43 650 3905697
>>
>> http://www.semantic-web.at
>> http://blog.semantic-web.at
>> http://poolparty.biz
>>
>> LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/
>> OKFN-AT - http://okfn.at
>> EDF2014 - http://2014.data-forum.eu
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Martin Kaltenböck, CMC
> Managing Partner, CFO
>
> Semantic Web Company (SWC)
> Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8
> A - 1070 Vienna, Austria
> Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25
> Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22
> Mobile +43 650 3905697
>
> http://www.semantic-web.at
> http://blog.semantic-web.at
> http://poolparty.biz
>
> LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/
> OKFN-AT - http://okfn.at
> EDF2014 - http://2014.data-forum.eu
>
>


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Martin Kaltenböck, CMC
Managing Partner, CFO

Semantic Web Company (SWC)
Mariahilfer Strasse 70 / 8
A - 1070 Vienna, Austria
Tel +43 1 402 12 35 - 25
Fax +43 1 402 12 35 - 22
Mobile +43 650 3905697

http://www.semantic-web.at
http://blog.semantic-web.at
http://poolparty.biz

LOD2 - Creating Knowledge out of Interlinked Data - http://lod2.eu/
OKFN-AT - http://okfn.at
EDF2014 - http://2014.data-forum.eu
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